By: Gary D. King

March 11, 2000

I'm writing this in response to the article about gossip on Glenn Goodwin's Gospel Assembly Church Site.

I must respond first with the words of Jesus Christ in:

Luke 11:31 The queen of the south shall rise up in the judgment with the men of this generation, and condemn them: for she came from the utmost parts of the earth to hear the wisdom of Solomon; and, behold, a greater than Solomon is here.

I'm glad that the wisdom of Jesus excels Solomon's. Let's take a look at Jesus' wisdom.

Matthew 18:15-17 - Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother. But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established. And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican.

Now, I personally told Glenn Goodwin before I left the Des Moines Assembly that God never put him in there but his father, Vernon Goodwin did. I told him that there was un-repented sin that was covered up by Lloyd Goodwin and Vernon Goodwin. All Glenn could say was if God didn't put him in then God could take him out. This was all stated in my letter dated February 9, 1998 that is on Mike Davis' Site.

This says nothing about Robert and Wanda Mason who for years tried to get the elders of Gospel Assembly Church in Des Moines to meet and work things out. Namely, Lloyd Goodwin, Lee Ray, Vernon Goodwin and others. Go to their web page and read the letters for yourself. Michael Davis tried to work with Glenn Goodwin but he refused to hear.

Again in my letter dated October 1, 1998, page 2, I said: "I have written letters and asked for council from men who should know the reason of things. Page 3, second and third paragraph. We wanted to meet with ministers who call themselves elders and they refused. Nobody has ever come to us personally and tried to work it out.

Matthew 5:23-24 - Therefore if thou bring thy gift to the altar, and there rememberest that thy brother hath ought against thee; Leave there thy gift before the altar, and go thy way; first be reconciled to thy brother, and then come and offer thy gift.

Why have none of them ever come to us? We have tried going to them and they refuse to respond to us. My letter dated January 19, 1999 requesting to meet with the elders of Gospel Assembly Church in Des Moines and three eye witnesses and their subsequent refusal dated January 4, 1999 which is also on Mike's web site. This shows that the elders do not wish to resolve the local problems, therefore we have taken it before the WORLD WIDE CHURCH of Jesus Christ through the medium of the Internet.

We are not gossiping or slandering anyone. Individuals have contacted these people and they refused to repent for their criminal acts against young women and men in the local church. Also see letters dated, July 21, 1998 to Lee Ray with no response and July 22, 1998 to June Goodwin without any response.

According to Glenn Goodwin and the local so-called elders (I call them yes men) because of their moral cowardice towards those who have been wronged and their refusal to speak out against evil.

Those in Jerusalem in - Acts 9:13 - Then Ananias answered, Lord, I have heard by many of this man, how much evil he hath done to thy saints at Jerusalem: - were all workers of iniquity and slanderer's of Paul because people were telling everyone what Paul was doing to God's people at Jerusalem. Jesus personally appeared to this worker of iniquity, so-called by Glenn Goodwin's statement on their web page response to gossip, and chose him to go lay hands on Paul and heal him. Jesus was fellow shipping a bunch of workers of iniquity according to Glenn.

Also concerning Glenn's statement concerning - "long forgiven transgressions" - I answer this with: "Whom did they repent to? It certainly wasn't us or anyone else that I know of that they wronged. Luke 17:3 - Take heed to yourselves: If thy brother trespass against thee, rebuke him; and if he repent, forgive him. We have heard of no repentance to anyone.

"So Glenn, I suppose Lloyd Goodwin's own words to someone called Bridgett when he called her his wife and told her he loved her was gossip too, right?" There was only one Bridgett that I know of that played in the band. At that time, Lloyd Goodwin was married to June Goodwin. Let's see now, I believe that would make him an adulterer wouldn't it?

Now as far as you being an elder in Jesus church, I would like to enlighten you. You are not an elder in Christ's church but only in man's church. In God's church, elders search out hearsay and make certain of complaints from people and not cut them off.

Deut. 13:12-14 - If thou shalt hear say in one of thy cities, which the LORD thy God hath given thee to dwell there, saying, Certain men, the children of Belial, are gone out from among you, and have withdrawn the inhabitants of their city, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which ye have not known; Then shalt thou enquire, and make search, and ask diligently; and, behold, if it be truth, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought among you; Thou shalt surely smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, destroying it utterly, and all that is therein, and the cattle thereof, with the edge of the sword.

Then they were to execute judgment!

None of you so-called men of God have sought out anything or inquired about anything because you cannot! You cannot because you are not born of the truth nor do you love the truth! That makes you unhonorable men and not fit to be elders.

In Deut. 1:16-17 - And I charged your judges at that time, saying, Hear the causes between your brethren, and judge righteously between every man and his brother, and the stranger that is with him. Ye shall not respect persons in judgment; but ye shall hear the small as well as the great; ye shall not be afraid of the face of man; for the judgment is God's: and the cause that is too hard for you, bring it unto me, and I will hear it. This counts all of you out doesn't it? For you all refused to hear the cause of us small ones.

1 Cor. 6:1- Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints?

New Testament government says to take it openly to the saints. Yes, let's have court in the worldwide church of Jesus Christ over this matter or any matter as far as that goes.

Ephes. 5:6 - Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience. Verse - 11 - And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.

Now this tells me not to cover it up but make it manifest and confront them in their sin. As Mike Davis said in his message post response: Proverbs 28:13 - He that covereth his sins shall not prosper: but whoso confesseth and forsaketh them shall have mercy. None of you have done this for you are only duplicating and continuing in the sins of your fathers and you will not prosper. That's why God tore up the Des Moines Gospel Assembly Church.

1 Tim. 5:20 - Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear.

Let's see now, I don't see any cover-up here in Eph. 5:13 But all things that are reproved are made manifest by the light: for whatsoever doth make manifest is light. So good reason tells me whosoever covers up is of the darkness. AMEN!

I Tim. 1:20 - of whom is Hymenaeus and Alexander; whom I have delivered unto Satan, that they may learn not to blaspheme. No cover up here either. I guess Paul never had any love, for here he just turned them over to Satan to learn something didn't he? Again He must not have known that he that covereth a transgression seeketh love.

2 Tim. 4:14 - Alexander the coppersmith did me much evil: the Lord reward him according to his works: Let's see now, according to Glenn, Paul was gossiping to Timothy and not covering up this man's sin.

Titus 1:10-13 - For there are many unruly and vain talkers and deceivers, specially they of the circumcision: Whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole houses, teaching things which they ought not, for filthy lucre's sake. One of themselves, even a prophet of their own, said, The Cretians are alway liars, evil beasts, slow bellies. This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith;

Now according to Glenn Goodwin's interpretation of scripture, not only was Paul listening to evil speaking by condoning those who spoke it by saying this witness is true.

"No, Glenn, to speak evil of someone means that someone makes things up that are not true. This scripture proves that to be true. If not, the Apostle Paul would not have said this witness is true, just as our witness is true concerning Lloyd L. Goodwin and his mistreatment of God's dear children.

3 John 1:9-11 - I wrote unto the church: but Diotrephes, who loveth to have the preeminence among them, receiveth us not. [10] Wherefore, if I come, I will remember his deeds which he doeth," Now this apostle who is termed the apostle of love, according to Glenn, was wrong because the scripture Glenn uses, "he that covereth a transgression seeketh love." What did the apostle John know that Glenn doesn't know?" prating against us with malicious words: and not content therewith, neither doth he himself receive the brethren, and forbiddeth them that would, and casteth them out of the church. Beloved, follow not that which is evil, but that which is good. He that doeth good is of God: but he that doeth evil hath not seen God.

Now Glenn, the apostle John called Diotrephes evil and told people not to follow him and he never made mention of Diotrephes so called virtues. Either make the tree good and it's fruit good or make the tree corrupt and it's fruit evil for every tree is known by its fruits.

Matt 7:17 - He that doeth good is of God: but he that doeth evil hath not seen God. John called evil, evil and told people if they followed it they were evil and that they up to that point had not seen God. Now Lloyd Goodwin was evil and if you perpetuate his ways, you are evil and those that follow you are evil. Contrary to Diotrephes, Demetrius hath good report of all men. Now Lloyd Goodwin didn't and of the truth itself; yea, and we also bear record; and ye know that our record is true. Evil and truth here are at odds with one another but truth will bear witness of itself and of course you call that gossip don't you? Call it what you may, truth will prevail in the end.

Rev. 2:2 - I know thy works, and thy labor and thy patience and how thou can not bear them which are evil: (Now here, Jesus, called evil, evil and its not to be borne with but dealt with.) And you have tried them that say they are apostles and are not and have found them to be liars. Now we tried Lloyd Goodwin who said that he was an apostle and found him to be a liar and all liars shall have their part in the lake of fire.

Rev. 2:6 - But this you have that you hate the deeds of the Nicolaitanes, which I also hate. No covering of sin here by Jesus but he commended those at Ephesus who hated the same things as he did. Just as Jesus will stand with us in some of the deeds of Lloyd L. Goodwin that we hate and Jesus hated too.

Rev. 2:15-16 - So hast thou also them that hold the doctrine of the Nicolaitanes, which thing I hate. Repent; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will fight against them with the sword of my mouth.

Glenn, if you are holding a doctrine which Jesus hates, He will fight against you with the sword of His mouth which is the truth.

John 3:19-21- And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.

That's why we left Gospel Assembly Church because we came to the light and wanted our deeds reproved and made manifest to God. If we had stayed, we would have shown ourselves to be evil because we would have had to embrace your doctrine of covering up the truth and loving darkness rather than the truth.

Ezekiel 33:13 - When I shall say to the righteous, that he shall surely live; if he trust to his own righteousness, and commit iniquity, all his righteousness shall not be remembered; but for his iniquity that he hath committed, he shall die for it.

"Glenn, so much for someone's moral virtues when they do evil."

I believe Glenn Goodwin in his statement on gossip is only trying to intimidate and try to make us afraid, which we are not. We will speak boldly in our God in hopes that others would not come under his influence but speak out boldly against evil wherever it is found.


Gary D. King