July 23, 1998

Desmond Singh - 10233 Greaves Ave - Mississauga, Ontario, Canada - L5N 2M5

Dear Brother Singh:

Greetings, in the name of Jesus Christ the Lord.

This letter is in response to the minister's letter dated May 25, 1998 in Des Moines, Iowa.

At the end of the letter, it was stated that if a minister disagreed they were welcome to write with a scriptural response. I read the letter and disagree and would like to give my scriptural response to the best of my knowledge.

  1. It was stated that the ministers were assembled by the Holy Ghost and in one accord, unified and agreed on a proper course of action as though God sanctioned your actions. I say this is not true because your positions are unbiblical.
  2. Was this letter given to all the children of God or just to ministers? If not, this would contradict your statement in the third paragraph of your intentions to communicate to all the believers.
  3. The statement that the ministers are committed to stand with Brother Goodwin's church is questionable. Wait a minute! I thought the church belonged to Jesus Christ and to Him alone!
  4. Whoever wrote the letter also stated in the same paragraph that Glenn and the local elders were doing their best to hold fast to the form of sound words that they have received. Now, that was Paul's statement and it belonged to him because he knew what he was talking about. The same Paul also commended the men of Berea because they were more noble than these for they gladly received what Paul said. They took it home to see if it was found in the scriptures. The same Paul said to prove all things. That included his teaching also. Acts 17:10-11

I Thess 5:19-21 (Read Moffit) So, just because Lloyd Goodwin taught something does not mean that it's true. He does not have the final say on any doctrine. Especially if there are scriptures that contradict his teaching. We are not to worship man but God and His Son.

(5) The statement that they will continue to build upon the foundation that Brother Goodwin laid is also questionable. Now Brother Goodwin said that 99% of the people in the Des Moines Assembly were sheep. Therefore, since 250 or more left, that means that wherever they are, they are still sheep. If not, he didn't know what he was talking about, did he?

Now, regarding this foundation that you said he built us on, Jesus, himself said:

Matthew 7:24-27 Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock: [25] And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock.

[26] And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand: [27] And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.

So we have a problem here, if he built us into Jesus, as you said, then what was blown away in the stormy and windy trial that hit the Des Moines Assembly? Was it the house that was built on sand? Paul said that the foundation of God stands sure. II Tim 2:19 If the people left the true foundation then Lloyd Goodwin lied when he said the majority of saints in the Des Moines Assembly were sheep. There are still people leaving the assembly. The point here is: Are we witnessing a house built on sand falling and great shall be the fall of it? Time will tell the truth and so will God.

  1. The statement that ministers are committed to do their best to see to it that the Des Moines church is maintained as the pivotal reflection of Brother Goodwin's ministry. My Bible and the apostle to the Gentiles says in 2 Cor. 3:18 But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord.) We are to be reflecting the image of Jesus Christ by the working of the Holy Ghost in us. 2 Cor. 4:6 For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ. The only face that I am to be looking at is Jesus Christ and not Lloyd Goodwin. 2 Cor. 4:10-11 Always bearing about in the body the dying of the Lord Jesus, that the life also of Jesus might be made manifest in our body. [11] For we which live are alway delivered unto death for Jesus' sake, that the life also of Jesus might be made manifest in our mortal flesh.

Are we getting caught here in "man worship" or do we lift up and praise Jesus Christ alone for everything? Amen!

  1. I question the statement that you will provide every scriptural resistance to any effort to undermine this work that you so dearly love.

If God is behind the reason (and He is), that over 250 left the assembly, (and more are still leaving) then no one can stop Him. Is there not a cause? Will not the judge of all the earth do right? The curse causeless shall not come. Who says and it comes not to pass when He commands it not? God works all things after the council of His own will. So why is it God's will to tear down Lloyd Goodwin's work? Please give me an answer because again Paul says, "be not unwise but understanding what the will of the Lord is."(Eph 5:17) You say that the Holy Ghost gathered you all together and that you are in unity and are leading the people on in truth. Then please tell me the will of God in this matter.

  1. I question the statement made that upon prayerful assessment, we feel that Brother Glenn Goodwin is the most suited and qualified man to pastor the Des Moines Assembly. I'm not understanding this because why did Glenn need your prayerful assessment to qualify him? Vernon left him as the presiding elder and Josie and Bridgett witnessed it. Was that not God's will until you prayed about it? Did you not trust Vernon's judgment? You stated that the continuous move of God in every service demonstrated the divine sanction to Brother Glenn's appointment as presiding elder. I do not find in the word of God that the so-called "moving of the Spirit" attests to the validity of anything.

Jesus said in Matthew 7:15-20 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. [16] Ye shall know them by their fruits.

Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? [17] Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. [18] A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. [19] Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. [20] Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

Satan, himself can transform into an angel of light. How much more his ministers appear as ministers of righteousness whose end shall be according to their works. Satan can counterfeit most of the "real" works of God 2 Thes. 2:8-12 And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will overthrow with the breath of his mouth and destroy by the splendor of his coming. [9] The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with the work of Satan displayed in all kinds of counterfeit miracles, signs and wonders, [10] and in every sort of evil that deceives those who are perishing. They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. [11] For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie [12] and so that all will be condemned who have not believed the truth but have delighted in wickedness.

What about?

Rev. 13:2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority. Rev. 13:13-15 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men, [14] And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live. [15] And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

Have you ever heard of the "Toronto Blessing" or Pensacola, Florida revival? This is deceiving many people because of the (so-called) "move of God", the miracles and other "strange" manifestations they are seeing and "feeling." We are to "test" the spirits to see if they are of God or not. Even Lloyd Goodwin talked about the "serpent power" of the eastern religions. It's called the "serpent power" and it's called the Kundalini (or the coiled serpent). Many of the manifestations that they experience are the same as what goes on in a lot of the Pentecostal religions. They dance, laugh, shake, tremble, cry, make animal noises, and are slain in the spirit, have healing powers and even speak in tongues. Everything must be based upon the solid word of God and nothing else.

#1. Concerning this point of your letter pertaining to Lee Ray. Was this gathering truly sincere in coming upon truth or did you intend to jump all over Lee Ray? Remember, I was in some of those meetings and I heard with my own ears things that were said that were not right towards him and as far as I'm concerned, you are all wrong. God and time will prove all things whether they are true or false. Calling "actual truthful happenings" speculation is an outright lie. I was there and witnessed all these things in meetings with Vernon, Lee Ray, Paul Vest, Desmond Singh and etc.….

I was the only remaining ordained elder left and Vernon never said one thing to me about Glenn Goodwin being left in charge. I even asked Vernon way before he died if he had a will made out in case something happened to him and he told me that if he died, Lee Ray would be over the church anyway. He knew all the time what he was going to do. Either you all don't want to face the truth or you are extremely uninformed.

#2. Concerning liberties: First of all, the scripture in question has been misquoted. It is "as free" and not using your liberty for a cloak of maliciousness but as the servants of God. 1 Peter 2:16 (NIV) Live as free men, but do not use your freedom as a cover-up for evil; live as servants of God.

Galatians 5:13 (NIV) You, my brothers, were called to be free. But do not use your freedom to indulge the sinful nature; rather, serve one another in love. Now we are to live as free men and that means that I'm not under legalism from the law of any kind. Col. 2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holy day, or of the new moon, or of the Sabbath days: My conscience is under the control of God and He will tell me if I'm doing something wrong. Phil 3:15 says that God will reveal it unto me if I'm wrong. I don't understand why mere men think that they can sit and judge God's people as to what they can or cannot do! Romans 14:22 Hast thou faith? Have it to thyself before God. Happy is he that condemneth not himself in that thing which he alloweth. The Bible tells me that ministers are not lords over God's people but examples to the flock. If men (ministers in particular) would start living right themselves and quit covering up evil, then the people would follow them as they follow Christ, period. 1 Pet 5:2-3

It appears clearly to me that you all are trying to be "lords" over God's people and binding them up to your ways and not Gods. God is big enough to change a sinning child of God in his conscience if he's wrong. Don't you think so? You say that charity is far more important than liberty. Now does the Bible say that we are to stand fast in the "charity" whereby Christ set us free or does it say in Galatians 5:1 Stand fast therefore in the "liberty" wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage. Paul said that if we try and keep one law, then Christ is of no affect for us and we have to keep the WHOLE law. Galatians 5:2-4(NIV) Mark my words! I, Paul, tell you that if you let yourselves be circumcised, Christ will be of no value to you at all. [3] Again I declare to every man who lets himself be circumcised (or any other law) that he is obligated to obey the whole law. [4] You who are trying to be justified by law have been alienated from Christ; you have fallen away from grace. I believe this is exactly what you ministers are doing with God's people in your commandments and doctrines of men. You are leading them and keeping them in bondage. It's amazing to me the scripture you used to show your unity in Acts 15:28 but never understood what it was saying. Acts 15:28-29 (NIV) It seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us not to burden you with anything beyond the following requirements: [29] You are to(1) abstain from food sacrificed to idols,(2) from blood, from the(3) meat of strangled animals and from (4)sexual immorality. You will do well to avoid these things. Nothing here about dress, earrings, hair, whether they could move to another city or not, etc, etc……… But what about the sexual immorality (fornication) of our former pastor, the late Lloyd L. Goodwin, whose foundation you seek to preserve?

The scripture that you use in 1 Cor 6:12: Isn't it amazing that Paul said "all things are lawful unto me" but he would not be brought under the power of anyone's conscience if his conscience condemned him not. Paul sure took his liberty and didn't worry about offending the legalists here that were trying to bring God's people into bondage to their ways and not God's ways.

(NIV) Galatians 2:4-5 This matter arose because some false brothers had infiltrated our ranks to spy on the freedom we have in Christ Jesus and to make us slaves. [5] We did not give in to them for a moment, so that the truth of the gospel might remain with you. Liberty in Christ is to be free from the commandments and doctrines of men regardless of what they say!

#3. Regarding saints moving from one assembly to another: I'm glad that Abraham was not under this group of men. He would never have been called the "friend of God" because you all would have told him that God wasn't leading him because God hadn't told you he could go. 1 Cor 11:1-3 tells me that Christ is my head, not man. That's the safe guard from deception by ministers who call themselves ministers of Christ. 2 Cor. 11:13-15 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. [14] And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. [15] Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.

1 John 2:26-27 These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you. [27] But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him. 1 John 2:29 If ye know that he is righteous, ye know that every one that doeth righteousness is born of him. That anointing doesn’t come from man but from God and I don't need man to tell me what is right or wrong. The anointing will, when it's preached right.

Every child of God has access to Him for He's the head, not man. Col 2:19 What part of "from which all the body" don't we understand? Eph 3:12 We all have access by one Spirit unto the Father. Rom 5:2 Access unto Him without any man in my way, for Christ is my head!

#4. What we were in (and you still are) is part of Mystery Babylon and we didn't even know it. For her ancient ways manifest themselves through it such as: Acts 8:9-11 But there was a certain man, called Simon, which beforetime in the same city used sorcery, and bewitched the people of Samaria, giving out that himself was some great one: [10] To whom they all gave heed, from the least to the greatest, saying, This man is the great power of God. [11] And to him they had regard, because that of long time he had bewitched them with sorceries. Sorcery is Mystery Babylon's nametag by making it out that they are a great one or telling the people that they are a power of the world to come. Isa 47:9,12, Rev 9:21 and Rev 18:23.

By the way, the name of Reverend that men put in front of their names comes from Babylon. Men would do well to get rid of that title because in using it, they are taking on Babylon's spirit.

Psalm 111:9 He sent redemption unto his people: he hath commanded his covenant for ever: holy and reverend is his name. This word is in the Bible one time only and only in reference to God!

reverend yare', yaw-ray', Hebrew 3372; a primitive root; to fear; moral to revere; causative to frighten :- affright, be (make) afraid, dread (-ful), (put in) fear (-ful, -fully, -ing), (be had in) reverence (-end), × see, terrible (act, -ness, thing).

Psalm 111:10 The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: a good understanding have all they that do his commandments: his praise endureth for ever. Nothing here about "the praise of men" or "the fear of men."

#5. I would be more concerned about manifesting Christ's spirit than Lloyd Goodwin's spirit.

Now, you said the head of the church provided you with a unity of mind and purpose. According to the word of God, this is a lie and you all are lying on God. Your letter is unbiblical and not inspired by the Holy Ghost but by a spirit of error. Paul stated in 2 Tim. 4:3-4 (3) For there is going to come a time when people won't listen to the truth but will go around looking for teachers who will tell them just what they want to hear. (4) They won't listen to what the Bible says but will blithely follow their own misguided ideas.

Time will tell how spirit led this group really is. Please feel free to write to me.


Gary D. King